Lemoon's Painting CSLB #1120008

Popcorn Ceilings: Paint, Remove or Test

By Lemoon's Painting

A popcorn ceiling in an older home should be tested for asbestos before it is scraped, sanded or even rolled hard. If it tests clear, it can be painted with a sprayer or removed and the ceiling refinished. If it contains asbestos, removal is work for a licensed abatement contractor, not a painter.

Popcorn ceilings, also called acoustic or “cottage cheese” ceilings, were sprayed onto the ceilings of a great many American homes for several decades after the Second World War. They hid uneven drywall, softened echoes and went on far sooner than a smooth finish. Decades later, they collect dust and cobwebs, show water stains, crumble when touched and make a room look its age. Homeowners usually want one of three things: to paint over it, to get rid of it, or to leave it alone. Which of those is sensible depends first on a question you cannot answer by looking.

Why do older popcorn ceilings need testing?

Some sprayed ceiling textures contained asbestos. The EPA banned spray-applied asbestos surfacing materials in 1978, but that date alone does not tell you what is on a particular ceiling, which may be older than the house looks or patched since. According to the EPA, asbestos material that is not damaged or disturbed is not likely to pose a health risk. The risk comes from disturbing the material: scraping, sanding, drilling, cutting or breaking it releases fibers into the air of the house.

There is no visual test. A ceiling with asbestos looks the same as one without. The only way to know is to have a small sample analyzed by a laboratory, and the EPA advises that a trained and accredited asbestos professional take it. Until there is a result, treat the ceiling as untested: no scraping, no sanding, no drilling for new light fixtures.

A home of that age has a second question. If the ceiling was painted before 1978, the paint itself may contain lead. Ebenezer is EPA lead-safe (RRP) certified, so if there is lead, the work is planned and contained that way from the start.

The three options

OptionWhen it makes senseWhat it involves
Leave itThe ceiling is intact and you can live with the lookNothing, apart from avoiding damage
Paint itThe texture is sound and tested, or will not be disturbedSpraying, with stain-blocking primer where needed
Remove itTested clear, and you want a modern ceilingWet scraping, drywall finishing, priming and paint

If the test finds asbestos, removal is work for an asbestos abatement contractor; California licenses that trade separately, under the CSLB’s C-22 Asbestos Abatement classification, and the rules exist for good reason. It is not painting work, and it should not be approached as a weekend project.

Painting a popcorn ceiling

A popcorn ceiling can be painted, and it can look much fresher afterwards, especially if it has yellowed or carries water stains. But it is not painted like a flat ceiling.

  • It is sprayed. The texture is held together by a weak binder that water softens. A roller loaded with paint soaks that binder and can pull chunks of texture loose; it also flattens the texture unevenly. A sprayer lays a coat on without dragging.
  • It is tested first in a small area. If the texture loosens or lifts when the paint hits it, the ceiling is telling you it is not a candidate for painting.
  • Stains are sealed. Water rings and smoke are spot-primed with a stain-blocking primer, also sprayed, after the source of any water stain has been fixed.
  • It takes more paint. Popcorn has enormous surface area and absorbs heavily.
  • Masking is total. Spraying a ceiling means covering the walls, the floors and everything in the room.

One thing to weigh: once a popcorn ceiling is painted, it is harder to remove later. Removal relies on water soaking into the texture, and paint seals it out. If you are likely to want the popcorn gone in a few years, painting it now may make that job longer.

Removing a popcorn ceiling

If the ceiling has tested clear and you want it gone, the work runs roughly in this order:

  1. Empty or seal the room. Furniture out where possible, the rest wrapped. Walls are covered with plastic from ceiling to floor, and floors are covered and sealed.
  2. Shut off the forced-air system and cover vents, so debris is not drawn through the house.
  3. Make the electrical safe. Light fixtures and ceiling fans are dealt with before any water goes near the ceiling.
  4. Wet the texture in sections and let it soak.
  5. Scrape it off. It comes down as wet, heavy debris, which is bagged as the work goes.
  6. Assess the drywall underneath. This is where most surprises are found.
  7. Finish the drywall. Patch, tape and skim, or apply a lighter texture.
  8. Prime, then paint in a flat ceiling paint.

What is under the popcorn

The drywall under a popcorn ceiling was rarely finished to the standard of a smooth ceiling, because the texture was going to hide it. Joints may be rough, tape may be visible, and the ceiling may have been damaged during scraping. Most removed ceilings need either a skim coat to make them smooth or a lighter texture such as orange peel or knockdown to blend with the rest of the house. A smooth ceiling shows every flaw in raking light, so it takes the most finishing work of all; matching drywall texture explains how textures are blended.

These steps are what make removal a multi-day job for a single room, and they are why an honest estimate looks at the ceiling closely before giving a timeline. Ebenezer does the drywall finishing and texture that follow removal himself, and they are discussed as part of the same plan.

Where this comes up

Popcorn ceilings are common in the post-war and 1960s and 1970s housing that makes up so much of the South Bay and East County, from older homes in National City and Chula Vista to the hillside tracts of Spring Valley. If your home is from that era and the ceilings have never been tested, it is worth doing before any ceiling work, including new recessed lights or a ceiling fan.

For flat and lightly textured ceilings, why ceilings are the hardest to paint covers the rest of the craft.

Talk it through before anyone touches it

Ebenezer will look at the ceiling, ask about the age of the house and whether it has been tested, and tell you plainly which of the three options he thinks makes sense, and what each one involves. He holds a C-33 Painting and Decorating license, number 1120008, issued to Lemoon’s Painting Inc, and he will be clear that asbestos abatement is the one part of this that belongs to another trade.

Ask for a free estimate for your ceilings, or read more about interior painting and stucco, drywall and wood repair.

Common questions

How do I know if my popcorn ceiling has asbestos?

You cannot tell by looking at it. A small sample has to be taken and analyzed by a laboratory, and the EPA recommends that a trained, accredited asbestos professional take it. Any popcorn ceiling of uncertain age is worth testing. Until you have a result, avoid scraping, sanding, drilling or cutting into the ceiling.

Can a popcorn ceiling be painted?

Yes, if it is sound and has been tested, or is left undisturbed. Spraying is the usual method, because a roller soaks and drags the texture and can pull it loose. Bear in mind that a painted popcorn ceiling is harder to remove later, since the paint keeps water from softening the texture.

Is removing a popcorn ceiling messy?

Very. The texture is wetted and scraped off, and it comes down as heavy, wet debris. The room has to be emptied or fully sealed in plastic, floors and walls covered, and the forced-air system shut off. Afterwards, the drywall underneath usually needs finishing before it can be painted.

What does the ceiling look like after the popcorn is removed?

Rarely ready to paint. The drywall joints under popcorn were often finished roughly, because the texture was going to hide them. The ceiling usually needs patching, skim coating or a new lighter texture such as orange peel or knockdown, then a primer, before the finish paint goes on.

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